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	<link>http://greg-brooks.com</link>
	<description>Marketing &#124; PR &#124; Rainmaking &#124; Management</description>
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		<title>Comment on Marketing: What to outsource, what to keep in house by Odette Celibataire Endurici</title>
		<link>http://greg-brooks.com/2007/marketing-what-to-outsource-what-to-keep-in-house/#comment-606</link>
		<author>Odette Celibataire Endurici</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 07:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://greg-brooks.com/2007/marketing-what-to-outsource-what-to-keep-in-house/#comment-606</guid>
		<description>I would never outsource strategy. I cannot trust a consultant with the whole development of my business, and this mostly because he will probably tell me what he has told others before. I want my strategy to be unique, and so I'll rather hire a good strategist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would never outsource strategy. I cannot trust a consultant with the whole development of my business, and this mostly because he will probably tell me what he has told others before. I want my strategy to be unique, and so I&#8217;ll rather hire a good strategist.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Business development 101: It&#8217;s a lot like dating by Small Business Marketing</title>
		<link>http://greg-brooks.com/2007/business-development-101-its-a-lot-like-dating/#comment-591</link>
		<author>Small Business Marketing</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 02:17:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://greg-brooks.com/2007/business-development-101-its-a-lot-like-dating/#comment-591</guid>
		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Why Business is not unlike Dating...&lt;/strong&gt;

Business is not unlike dating.  It&#8217;s an analogy that we can all relate to.  The awkwardness, the rush, the excitement, etc.  Sound familiar?  It&#8217;s not unlike business, not unlike your first sales call, closing your first deal, and getting t...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Why Business is not unlike Dating&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Business is not unlike dating.  It&#8217;s an analogy that we can all relate to.  The awkwardness, the rush, the excitement, etc.  Sound familiar?  It&#8217;s not unlike business, not unlike your first sales call, closing your first deal, and getting t&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on The one-minute media relations guide by Weekly Roundup: Sox and Links &#124; Sarah Morgan</title>
		<link>http://greg-brooks.com/2007/the-one-minute-media-relations-guide/#comment-582</link>
		<author>Weekly Roundup: Sox and Links &#124; Sarah Morgan</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 00:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://greg-brooks.com/2007/the-one-minute-media-relations-guide/#comment-582</guid>
		<description>[...] Greg is my fairy godmother. He is also a PR geeeenius and this post should be memorized by everyone in the industry. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Greg is my fairy godmother. He is also a PR geeeenius and this post should be memorized by everyone in the industry. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Business development 101: It&#8217;s a lot like dating by Selling is Like Dating</title>
		<link>http://greg-brooks.com/2007/business-development-101-its-a-lot-like-dating/#comment-564</link>
		<author>Selling is Like Dating</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 17:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://greg-brooks.com/2007/business-development-101-its-a-lot-like-dating/#comment-564</guid>
		<description>[...] Business development 101: It’s a lot like dating. &#8220;You can stand outside the supermarket, asking every passer-by to kiss you — but it’s hard work and you’re going to get slapped a lot on the way to that first kiss. (Corallary: People would rather go out with someone they know than with a stranger.) &#8230;. It’s important to have a lot of contacts (i.e., potential customers) at the top of the funnel because the sales cycle is so variable. The overwhelming majority of customers buying your services do so only when they decide that they have pain you can address — and not before.&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Business development 101: It’s a lot like dating. &#8220;You can stand outside the supermarket, asking every passer-by to kiss you — but it’s hard work and you’re going to get slapped a lot on the way to that first kiss. (Corallary: People would rather go out with someone they know than with a stranger.) &#8230;. It’s important to have a lot of contacts (i.e., potential customers) at the top of the funnel because the sales cycle is so variable. The overwhelming majority of customers buying your services do so only when they decide that they have pain you can address — and not before.&#8221; [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Five PR job interview questions by Sandy Charet</title>
		<link>http://greg-brooks.com/2007/five-pr-job-interview-questions/#comment-509</link>
		<author>Sandy Charet</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 13:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://greg-brooks.com/2007/five-pr-job-interview-questions/#comment-509</guid>
		<description>I'm not Betsy (really like her blog) and this is a year old post, but I really liked your last question that wasn't really a question at all... 
Especially for AEs types, like you said, it can give you a chance to measure their preparedness, curiosity, research, and insightfulness.  You can have the other questions answered well by a smooth talking B-S er.  But this one will show you a little more about what's behind the eyes. 
Sandy Charet
25 year executive recruiter for corporate communications</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not Betsy (really like her blog) and this is a year old post, but I really liked your last question that wasn&#8217;t really a question at all&#8230;<br />
Especially for AEs types, like you said, it can give you a chance to measure their preparedness, curiosity, research, and insightfulness.  You can have the other questions answered well by a smooth talking B-S er.  But this one will show you a little more about what&#8217;s behind the eyes.<br />
Sandy Charet<br />
25 year executive recruiter for corporate communications</p>
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		<title>Comment on Greg Brooks, principal, West Third Group by Mike&#8217;s Points - Why Mike&#8217;s Points? I&#8217;m providing &#8220;points,&#8221; comments &#38; links about PR, journalism, social media, branding, marketing &#38; other items of interest. &#187; Business and communications planning&#8230;made si</title>
		<link>http://greg-brooks.com/about-greg-brooks/#comment-499</link>
		<author>Mike&#8217;s Points - Why Mike&#8217;s Points? I&#8217;m providing &#8220;points,&#8221; comments &#38; links about PR, journalism, social media, branding, marketing &#38; other items of interest. &#187; Business and communications planning&#8230;made si</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 12:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://greg-brooks.com/about-greg-brooks/#comment-499</guid>
		<description>[...] to various discussion boards and groups. One is the Young PR Pros Yahoo! Group. A few years ago, Greg Brooks posted a reply in a thread that I&#8217;ve found very helpful. It&#8217;s a framework [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] to various discussion boards and groups. One is the Young PR Pros Yahoo! Group. A few years ago, Greg Brooks posted a reply in a thread that I&#8217;ve found very helpful. It&#8217;s a framework [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Smart PR recruiting from Fleishman-Hillard by Embracing Blogging at F-H &#124; Valley PR Blog</title>
		<link>http://greg-brooks.com/2007/smart-pr-recruiting-from-fleishman-hillard/#comment-174</link>
		<author>Embracing Blogging at F-H &#124; Valley PR Blog</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:38:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://greg-brooks.com/2007/smart-pr-recruiting-from-fleishman-hillard/#comment-174</guid>
		<description>[...] post on Greg Brooks&#8217; site about the extent to which staffers and recruiters at Fleischman-Hillard are blogging in order to attract both clients AND [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] post on Greg Brooks&#8217; site about the extent to which staffers and recruiters at Fleischman-Hillard are blogging in order to attract both clients AND [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Marketing: What to outsource, what to keep in house by Greg Brooks</title>
		<link>http://greg-brooks.com/2007/marketing-what-to-outsource-what-to-keep-in-house/#comment-100</link>
		<author>Greg Brooks</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://greg-brooks.com/2007/marketing-what-to-outsource-what-to-keep-in-house/#comment-100</guid>
		<description>Gini, I think you're right -- for certain industries and certain types of media. The problem comes when we generalize too much.

Take the consumer products company that wants a mention on Oprah -- it's ridiculous for them to try and tackle something like that without professional counsel because there are agencies that have been through that particular wringer before and, to your point, have the relationships that can make a huge difference.

Now, let's look at a different example: An industrial manufacturer. They sell arcane, nearly commoditized products through a network of sales reps and independent distributors, and when they do bother to do PR, the stuff is usually run verbatim (or nearly so) as product news in trade pubs. An in-house person is going to be much, much more effective in a situation like that for a couple of reasons:

* They wouldn't need a learning curve for determining what does and doesn't matter in the industry; and

* The quality of relationships with reporters and editors matters a lot less.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gini, I think you&#8217;re right &#8212; for certain industries and certain types of media. The problem comes when we generalize too much.</p>
<p>Take the consumer products company that wants a mention on Oprah &#8212; it&#8217;s ridiculous for them to try and tackle something like that without professional counsel because there are agencies that have been through that particular wringer before and, to your point, have the relationships that can make a huge difference.</p>
<p>Now, let&#8217;s look at a different example: An industrial manufacturer. They sell arcane, nearly commoditized products through a network of sales reps and independent distributors, and when they do bother to do PR, the stuff is usually run verbatim (or nearly so) as product news in trade pubs. An in-house person is going to be much, much more effective in a situation like that for a couple of reasons:</p>
<p>* They wouldn&#8217;t need a learning curve for determining what does and doesn&#8217;t matter in the industry; and</p>
<p>* The quality of relationships with reporters and editors matters a lot less.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Marketing: What to outsource, what to keep in house by Gini</title>
		<link>http://greg-brooks.com/2007/marketing-what-to-outsource-what-to-keep-in-house/#comment-99</link>
		<author>Gini</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 20:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://greg-brooks.com/2007/marketing-what-to-outsource-what-to-keep-in-house/#comment-99</guid>
		<description>Greg - This is great, but I don't agree on your media relations assessment.  As we all know, media relations is all about relationships.  And if you don't have the relationship, it's nearly impossible to get your news covered. A PR firm has relationships with reporters in very specific industries and it is a lot more cost effective and efficient to outsource media relations.  Plus people who work with reporters all day, every day, know what news is and know how to get it covered, while most in-house PR people want all of the company news covered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg - This is great, but I don&#8217;t agree on your media relations assessment.  As we all know, media relations is all about relationships.  And if you don&#8217;t have the relationship, it&#8217;s nearly impossible to get your news covered. A PR firm has relationships with reporters in very specific industries and it is a lot more cost effective and efficient to outsource media relations.  Plus people who work with reporters all day, every day, know what news is and know how to get it covered, while most in-house PR people want all of the company news covered.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The evolution of a PR firm by Greg Brooks</title>
		<link>http://greg-brooks.com/2007/the-evolution-of-a-pr-firm/#comment-95</link>
		<author>Greg Brooks</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 23:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://greg-brooks.com/2007/the-evolution-of-a-pr-firm/#comment-95</guid>
		<description>Chuck, thanks for the clarification! I still think you're doing some things very, very right with how your product offerings are structured and therein lie some lessons for PR shops.

Best of luck with your endeavors!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chuck, thanks for the clarification! I still think you&#8217;re doing some things very, very right with how your product offerings are structured and therein lie some lessons for PR shops.</p>
<p>Best of luck with your endeavors!</p>
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		<title>Comment on The evolution of a PR firm by Chuck Longanecker</title>
		<link>http://greg-brooks.com/2007/the-evolution-of-a-pr-firm/#comment-94</link>
		<author>Chuck Longanecker</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 20:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://greg-brooks.com/2007/the-evolution-of-a-pr-firm/#comment-94</guid>
		<description>Hi Greg,

Thanks for your insights.  Just to clarify, we actually were a digital marketing agency before this new direction.  The TC article was slightly inaccurate with those details.  We had worked on about ten web 2.0 applications for clients and ourselves before the switch, so we are well versed with the process.  

We also already had a team of designers, marketers and business professionals to take on the job. So the transition was actually easier than you might have thought.  

However, much like a PR agency, we were always pitching services, writing long proposals, customizing everything.  I have to say, the product based approach is a nice change as is defining prices and timelines ahead of time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Greg,</p>
<p>Thanks for your insights.  Just to clarify, we actually were a digital marketing agency before this new direction.  The TC article was slightly inaccurate with those details.  We had worked on about ten web 2.0 applications for clients and ourselves before the switch, so we are well versed with the process.  </p>
<p>We also already had a team of designers, marketers and business professionals to take on the job. So the transition was actually easier than you might have thought.  </p>
<p>However, much like a PR agency, we were always pitching services, writing long proposals, customizing everything.  I have to say, the product based approach is a nice change as is defining prices and timelines ahead of time.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Greg Brooks, principal, West Third Group by Richard Whipple</title>
		<link>http://greg-brooks.com/about-greg-brooks/#comment-78</link>
		<author>Richard Whipple</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 14:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://greg-brooks.com/about-greg-brooks/#comment-78</guid>
		<description>Mr. Brooks, 

I am having a difficult time finding your latest Blog entry. Your standpoint on client ROI vis-a-vis public relations as a business profession (same as accounting not same as "The World's Oldest Profession") leads me to expect you have plenty to say on this cantankerous subject - including how awards are earned, if "earnings" are indeed involved in the award criteria.  

I have heard the buzz in the USA over the development of a PR ROI using financial measures for the last several years even from here in Eastern Europe.  Your experience at the senior levels of marketing in America, may have privileged you to Marketing's ROI calculations.  (Have you read Jim Lenskold's excellent book on the subject?)  

Your thoughts and comments on the subject would certainly be of interest to me, as you have stood on both sides of the organisational power line: artistic communications technician and pragmatic communications businessperson.

I am new to Blogs so forgive me if I have missed the latest Blog entry button.  I will look through your categories. 

Regards, 
Richard Whipple</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Brooks, </p>
<p>I am having a difficult time finding your latest Blog entry. Your standpoint on client ROI vis-a-vis public relations as a business profession (same as accounting not same as &#8220;The World&#8217;s Oldest Profession&#8221;) leads me to expect you have plenty to say on this cantankerous subject - including how awards are earned, if &#8220;earnings&#8221; are indeed involved in the award criteria.  </p>
<p>I have heard the buzz in the USA over the development of a PR ROI using financial measures for the last several years even from here in Eastern Europe.  Your experience at the senior levels of marketing in America, may have privileged you to Marketing&#8217;s ROI calculations.  (Have you read Jim Lenskold&#8217;s excellent book on the subject?)  </p>
<p>Your thoughts and comments on the subject would certainly be of interest to me, as you have stood on both sides of the organisational power line: artistic communications technician and pragmatic communications businessperson.</p>
<p>I am new to Blogs so forgive me if I have missed the latest Blog entry button.  I will look through your categories. </p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Richard Whipple</p>
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		<title>Comment on Writing RFPs for PR or marketing engagements: a guide for clients by David Kutcher</title>
		<link>http://greg-brooks.com/2007/writing-rfps-for-pr-or-marketing-engagements-a-guide-for-clients/#comment-76</link>
		<author>David Kutcher</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 21:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://greg-brooks.com/2007/writing-rfps-for-pr-or-marketing-engagements-a-guide-for-clients/#comment-76</guid>
		<description>I know this is an older post, but I caught your comments at MPDailyFix and followed them here.  I recently wrote an article on CIO's website which I have copied to my &lt;a href="http://rfpdb.blogspot.com/2007/09/raise-your-rfp-roi.html" title="RFPdb blog" rel="nofollow"&gt;blog&lt;/a&gt; regarding how to increase your RFP ROI (by being selective), but also wanted to pass along a link to a site I run that I feel is relevant: the &lt;a href="http://www.rfpdb.com" title="RFP Database" rel="nofollow"&gt;RFP Database&lt;/a&gt;.  Whether you're looking for sample RFPs, a place to post your RFP to gain bids, or RFPs to bid on yourself, it's all there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know this is an older post, but I caught your comments at MPDailyFix and followed them here.  I recently wrote an article on CIO&#8217;s website which I have copied to my <a href="http://rfpdb.blogspot.com/2007/09/raise-your-rfp-roi.html" title="RFPdb blog">blog</a> regarding how to increase your RFP ROI (by being selective), but also wanted to pass along a link to a site I run that I feel is relevant: the <a href="http://www.rfpdb.com" title="RFP Database">RFP Database</a>.  Whether you&#8217;re looking for sample RFPs, a place to post your RFP to gain bids, or RFPs to bid on yourself, it&#8217;s all there.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The one-minute media relations guide by Colin McKay</title>
		<link>http://greg-brooks.com/2007/the-one-minute-media-relations-guide/#comment-73</link>
		<author>Colin McKay</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 17:26:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://greg-brooks.com/2007/the-one-minute-media-relations-guide/#comment-73</guid>
		<description>@mike

Why is the only visual I'm getting in my head that of Gordon Gekko, wandering around his office talking to the air in a very authoritative voice?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@mike</p>
<p>Why is the only visual I&#8217;m getting in my head that of Gordon Gekko, wandering around his office talking to the air in a very authoritative voice?</p>
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		<title>Comment on The one-minute media relations guide by Mike Driehorst</title>
		<link>http://greg-brooks.com/2007/the-one-minute-media-relations-guide/#comment-72</link>
		<author>Mike Driehorst</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 16:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://greg-brooks.com/2007/the-one-minute-media-relations-guide/#comment-72</guid>
		<description>I'd add (and this is not original; read it elsewhere), if you are giving a telephone interview, don't sit at your desk. Put the call on speaker or have a headset. Walk around.

The rationale is that your messages will flow more freely, and your personality will be better reflected in the tone of your voice.
-- Mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d add (and this is not original; read it elsewhere), if you are giving a telephone interview, don&#8217;t sit at your desk. Put the call on speaker or have a headset. Walk around.</p>
<p>The rationale is that your messages will flow more freely, and your personality will be better reflected in the tone of your voice.<br />
&#8211; Mike</p>
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